"How are we obtaining redemption? How is everything that we've faced so far a path to it?" He sounds exasperated by it all. "The torture, the death, the pain that we're all experiencing doesn't seem like a sound way for us to "redeem" ourselves."

Then again, the fog may not have been Lucifer's doing, or even the Veiled Order's. Lilith was also trapped with them all and he doesn't think that she would be tortured with them. He huffs out a sigh, carefully moving to take hold of Jesper's hand for the added contact.

"Sorry I just, can't wrap my mind about what we've been through versus what the supposed end goal is." He's thought about it a lot too. "I think you're right about it not being obtainable."