I'm not giving up on them. [He says firmly.] I just... need to look at this a different way.
If we cannot get them out now we need a plan to get them out in the future. If we get trapped in the bubble we'll be just as gone as they are, but there has to be something we can do.
It's just maddening that we can't seem to do anything about it right now.
It's not going to be easy. [He points out with a frown.] I mean it never is here, but I have a bad feeling it's going to be more complicated than other times.
I don't know where to begin. [He groans, rubbing at his face.] I don't want to go charging in, but I don't know if there is a way to get inside without getting caught up in the spell.
Maybe we could ask Lilith... [Something he's hesitant about but it could be a possibility.]
We don't exactly do "easy" anyway. Do we? [When was the last time any job they tried had been an easy mark?]
I don't like the idea of owing Lilith or any of them favors. I might try to reach out to Kaz again, see if I can get through. Maybe we can lure him out?
I say we keep asking any of them for help on the back burner. Last resort. [They were running out of other options anyway, so going to Lilith wasn't too far down the list.]
I won't know until I try, right? So...take the shot first, and see where that leaves us.
When are you going to try? We'll need a plan of what to do if we lure him out. We can't just bombard him with facts about who he really is. We may need to befriend this ...alternate version of Kaz first before we really work on breaking the spell. [A pause.] If there is a way to break the spell once they're outside of Hellburbia.
I don't know. [He admits with a sigh.] Soon I think. I don't like how long we've gone without really hearing anything. I'll see how that goes if I reach him first.
We can't really make a plan until we know he can get messages from us anyway.
We need contingencies. Let's say that he can get another message from you, what do we do? What do we say? What could we say to him to lure him out of Hellburbia?
What then? [He feels like pacing around the room, but he stays where he is, keeping close to Jesper.] I hate this. [He frowns.] I don't know what he actually knows versus what he needs to know.
I think you've been hanging around Kaz too much before this to have that kind of talk. [He has to laugh, just a little.]
We'll need to convince him we're worth listening to, people worth seeing? I could try to convince him I know him--he has to have his cane, right? [Why is this so hard?] Maybe showing what I can do over a video call would get his attention...
I'm just saying we need to think about it. [He rolls his eyes, shaking his head.] I never said I liked the idea of it.
[He thinks about it. Could that work?] That could work. I mean you could try - the worst thing that happens is he doesn't believe you. [Which is highly likely but they needed to try something.] He has to have his cane - they wouldn't just take that from him, right?
And I'm saying you're thinking like Kaz. Some would take it as a compliment. [Is he teasing? Absolutely.]
...Here's hoping he believes me then. [He pauses, clearly thinking on something.] He needs it, so he has to have it...which means I might have an idea.
I might consider it a compliment. [He teases back.]
All right. Let's try your idea and if that doesn't work well... we'll come up with another one. If he doesn't believe you or doesn't trust you after it's going to make things difficult to lure him out.
So what do we do if it backfires and what do we do if it works?
[There's a grin, laughter behind his eyes at that quip back. There's always a bit more lightness to Wylan when he's in a space to tease back--something Jesper keeps trying to find opportunities to bring out in this place.]
If it backfires...we're at our last-ditch effort, which means seeking out Lilith. [A sour note, but he has to be realistic.] If it works...we get him here and keep him here until we figure out how to snap him out of it entirely.
All right. Sounds like we have a semblance of a plan cobbled together. [He smiles, leaning against his hand.] It's better than nothing. So let's start there.
You'll let me know if it doesn't work? [A pause.] Should we tell Noah?
Right. Get what we can, move on to the next steps. [It's clear that having something to act on was putting Jesper at ease. He hated metaphorically spinning his wheels.]
Which means you'll know how it goes regardless. [A frown.] I haven't seen him...I'll see where he's at. Once we know where we're going with this, we'll clue him in.
I wish I had more of a plan. I'm not the planner--[But he's the second, the one in command now that Kaz isn't--He's doing the best he can.]
We'll see where this goes. [He holds up his device, waving before he starts trying to pull up a message thread, heading for the couch in the shared common area.] This might...take awhile.
[Jesper looks up from his tinkering to offer a slight smile.] Well if you're going anyway...coffee might be a good idea if I'm going to keep at this for a bit.
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If we cannot get them out now we need a plan to get them out in the future. If we get trapped in the bubble we'll be just as gone as they are, but there has to be something we can do.
It's just maddening that we can't seem to do anything about it right now.
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[Either that or Hell's going to give them the option. One way or another they were finding their way in there.]
We'll figure it out, and then we get them out, right? That's always been the plan. Just need to make sure the waiting doesn't drive us all nuts.
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I don't know where to begin. [He groans, rubbing at his face.] I don't want to go charging in, but I don't know if there is a way to get inside without getting caught up in the spell.
Maybe we could ask Lilith... [Something he's hesitant about but it could be a possibility.]
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I don't like the idea of owing Lilith or any of them favors. I might try to reach out to Kaz again, see if I can get through. Maybe we can lure him out?
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I don't either but I don't know what our options are. [He pauses, thinking about it.] Do you think that he'll listen enough to be lured out?
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I won't know until I try, right? So...take the shot first, and see where that leaves us.
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When are you going to try? We'll need a plan of what to do if we lure him out. We can't just bombard him with facts about who he really is. We may need to befriend this ...alternate version of Kaz first before we really work on breaking the spell. [A pause.] If there is a way to break the spell once they're outside of Hellburbia.
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We can't really make a plan until we know he can get messages from us anyway.
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What then? [He feels like pacing around the room, but he stays where he is, keeping close to Jesper.] I hate this. [He frowns.] I don't know what he actually knows versus what he needs to know.
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We'll need to convince him we're worth listening to, people worth seeing? I could try to convince him I know him--he has to have his cane, right? [Why is this so hard?] Maybe showing what I can do over a video call would get his attention...
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[He thinks about it. Could that work?] That could work. I mean you could try - the worst thing that happens is he doesn't believe you. [Which is highly likely but they needed to try something.] He has to have his cane - they wouldn't just take that from him, right?
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...Here's hoping he believes me then. [He pauses, clearly thinking on something.] He needs it, so he has to have it...which means I might have an idea.
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All right. Let's try your idea and if that doesn't work well... we'll come up with another one. If he doesn't believe you or doesn't trust you after it's going to make things difficult to lure him out.
So what do we do if it backfires and what do we do if it works?
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If it backfires...we're at our last-ditch effort, which means seeking out Lilith. [A sour note, but he has to be realistic.] If it works...we get him here and keep him here until we figure out how to snap him out of it entirely.
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You'll let me know if it doesn't work? [A pause.] Should we tell Noah?
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Which means you'll know how it goes regardless. [A frown.] I haven't seen him...I'll see where he's at. Once we know where we're going with this, we'll clue him in.
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[He sighs, rubbing at his face before he looks back over to Jesper.]
I hope it works. Or does something for whatever it is you're planning.
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We'll see where this goes. [He holds up his device, waving before he starts trying to pull up a message thread, heading for the couch in the shared common area.] This might...take awhile.
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[He pauses, choosing not to sit down just yet.]
I'm going to grab some coffee from the cafe, do you want me to bring you anything?
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...Unless you want company?
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Come on. [He holds out his hand.] We can grab coffee and come back to figure out more about this plan of ours.
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Well? Lead on.